How Can This Be Right?

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Grand Wizard Of The Inner Clique
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Just been listening to a sad tale,
A bloke in his 60's not far from retirement, been suspended from job seekers, the reason?
Hasn't logged into his account with the super duper job seekers online system.
The guy is hardly able to put pen to paper, so managing a keyboard less than no chance.
Leading up to his suspension, when they introduced this sparkling new system he was asked if he had a computer & an email address, because he answered no, they arranged a 10 day course, despite being unable to understand what was being discussed, he got a pass for the course, then was given a list of places he could go to log on free.
He tried, he failed, but was then suspended for not fulfilling his obligation to the agreement he'd signed about job searching.

Now come on, some folk will never, ever be able to use a computer, it isn't something they want or need, but to leave a confused guy with no money just because he doesn't and probably never will understand a new system.
How can this be right?

Before some smart arse asks no, I'm not talking about me.
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its all over the internet and has been on the tv about how staff at job centers are been given targets to get peoples money suspended so no matter how hard you have tried if you have been chisen your going to loose your money.The staff have to hit these targets or face loosing their jobs as well as they will be under performning their duties which is to deliberatly deny a claimant their money.They are even tricking the more aware into saying things that provide an excuse to impose sanctions as they are called.

its a disgrace and only possible under a tory government

i could post lots of links but it aint hard to find thsi information so if you think its bull take a look around the net and previous shows of panorama
 
oh and dont forget retirement age is set to go up yet again if cameron gets his way so instead of clocking out of work you get taken out in a coffin
 
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Just been listening to a sad tale,
A bloke in his 60's not far from retirement, been suspended from job seekers, the reason?
Hasn't logged into his account with the super duper job seekers online system.
The guy is hardly able to put pen to paper, so managing a keyboard less than no chance.
Leading up to his suspension, when they introduced this sparkling new system he was asked if he had a computer & an email address, because he answered no, they arranged a 10 day course, despite being unable to understand what was being discussed, he got a pass for the course, then was given a list of places he could go to log on free.
He tried, he failed, but was then suspended for not fulfilling his obligation to the agreement he'd signed about job searching.

Now come on, some folk will never, ever be able to use a computer, it isn't something they want or need, but to leave a confused guy with no money just because he doesn't and probably never will understand a new system.
How can this be right?

Before some smart arse asks no, I'm not talking about me.
:)
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I know one or two that no matter what you show them on a computer it never sinks in. Could you or one of your friends not help him.
 
its one thing to prove you are looking fo rwork but a whole different thing when people are been targeted and tricked out of money they are entitled too

lets no forget here that a lot of people claiming benefit have paid NI and TAX its not their fault government has urined the money away and cant afford to pay what is rightfully due to people
dosnt stop them giving millions away to folk who habvnt paid naff all into the sysytem though
 
cashman said:
Won't be long though before some clown comes along to defend these barstewards.:rolleyes:
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millipeed or band i think hes called has openly said that he wont reverse the bedroom tax so i doubt he would reverse owt else if elected the guttless git

no better than cameron and they wonder why folk say they are all the same

crooked
 
cashman said:
Oh they will cut cash from people who have worked all lives n now really need it, but they have had to do this cos they aint cutting Foreign Aid.:rolleyes::mad:
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aint stopping more comin in either so where are all these jobs to accomodate the citizens of this country and all those that come here if theres no excuse for been unemployed ?
 
accyman said:
aint stopping more comin in either so where are all these jobs to accomodate the citizens of this country and all those that come here if theres no excuse for been unemployed ?
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If only they would allow me to rent the spare room I have to pay extra for to 15 or 20 rich immigrants!
 
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If only they would allow me to rent the spare room I have to pay extra for to 15 or 20 rich immigrants!
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you can but you have to declare it so they can deduct what you get from your HB

10 years ago it wasnt enough jobs for the people of this country yet alone immigrants and now its not enough benefi for the people of this country yet alone immigrants

but been in the EU is making us better off its very important to remember that
 
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Exactly, they are killing free enterprise!
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if you were to sell your arse down back alleys they wouldnt stop you but deduct what you earned from your benefit so thats not an option either mate

possibly tax you as well
 
It isn't right, and this man should get in touch with Graham Jones and see what he has to say about it...and see if he can organise something so that this man can get his rightful benefits.

Government departments need to recognise that 1) not everyone has access to computers. 2) not everyone is computer literate.
3)some people do not want to be computer literate.4) some people do not trust the security of computers.

These are all valid reasons why there should be some other system in place for these people.
 
margaret they are fully aware of what you are saying its just one method they are using to save money by deliberatly setting out to deny genuine claimants their money

the computer illiterate are easy targets not people to be helped
 
Usual morning round of positivity on the forum I see......

The debate about "entitled to benefits" is a fascinating one to me, whether you have paid your taxes or not. As it happens I have, and I have 25 years of contributions to show for it. Despite that I don't see myself as being entitled to any benefits, ever. I also don't think I'll ever see a state pension because it'll have been removed from people who can support themselves - and I think that's fair.

No benefits whatsoever here in Asia, but no need or them either because the family is responsible for care, be it when you are sick, unemployed, disabled whatever. You look after your kids to they grow up then they look after you. Imagine that, what a weird concept. I think it's called a family....something the UK has long forgotten.

Any danger that someone might have something positive to say? What about starting a thread on the benefits to Lancashire of sitting on some of the worlds largest shale gas reserves?
 
theres no debate about it if you have paid your way your entitled to help its what National Insurance is for hence why they ask self employed people if they have paid their national insurance stamp when they need help
 
GEaston said:
Usual morning round of positivity on the forum I see......

The debate about "entitled to benefits" is a fascinating one to me, whether you have paid your taxes or not. As it happens I have, and I have 25 years of contributions to show for it. Despite that I don't see myself as being entitled to any benefits, ever. I also don't think I'll ever see a state pension because it'll have been removed from people who can support themselves - and I think that's fair.

No benefits whatsoever here in Asia, but no need or them either because the family is responsible for care, be it when you are sick, unemployed, disabled whatever. You look after your kids to they grow up then they look after you. Imagine that, what a weird concept. I think it's called a family....something the UK has long forgotten.

Any danger that someone might have something positive to say? What about starting a thread on the benefits to Lancashire of sitting on some of the worlds largest shale gas reserves?
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This man has probably paid into a system which is supposed to support him if he becomes unemployed.......if it isn't going to do this then hasn't the government failed him?

There are people who come into this country having paid not a bean...yet when they land here they are given the full run down on what benefits they can claim and how to go about it.

And while on the topic of a thread with some positivity...well, it is a public forum, so do please feel free to start something yourself.
I do not see the thread as something negative per se. It is just outlining a problem that somer poor unfortunate soul has.
There but for the grace of God(whichever one that might be) go all of us.
You may be fortunate enough not to need a support system...but there are plenty who do.
(I will await the incoming red stuff now)
 
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