I kno coley has done a superb job for us since he took over in 99 but who would you like to see take over if he was to leave/sacked.Its just everytime i go watchin stanley there is no spark, the atmosphere has all but gone, we really do need 2 do something now, if we get relegated this season, we ain't coming bk, we need someone 2 inspire the boys on.Get kk in.
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That's right. Someone like that would come to us for £200 per week. Great idea!
Why do you think we struggle to sign players??
I do wonder at what point Coleman will resign though. If we lose against Torquay? At the end of the season, when we're relegated? I presume he will offer his resignation at some point, even if it is not accepted.
The thing is, if he does go, will it be the start of another cycle of short term managers who plug gaps, while the team slips backwards.
I have a feeling he will go at the end of the season, i think he's realised he's out of this league by the sounds of it, the problem Coley has is his contacts for potential players mmmmm have u noticed a mini Liverpool LOL!!! He has no experience as a player nevermind manager of league status football.
harsh and unnecessary......
we're in this mess because of a culmination of things, injuries and suspensions on top of losing two very influential players whuilst being hampered by their replacements breaking every muscle or bone know to treatment rooms.
Coley has made lots of mistakes this season ... the inability to bring the substitutes on at the right moment ... persevering with players who just aren't performing .... sticking with one dimensional (doesnt matter what the formation - the target is the same) football week in week out knowing full well the opposition have sussed us out. JC has to learn by these basic errors. But it is probably too late for this season.
I do not agree with other posts on other threads that call for his head. The one consistency at the Crown (even thats been inconsistent) over the years has been John and Jimmy. And that has been the cornerstone that our success has been built on. Just because a new manager comes in does not mean that things will be put right, a new manager will struggle to attract the right calibre of player because we cant afford the wages - its so simple that I can't understand the pillocks who keep ranting on about it. Maybe this season was too soon for us to regain League status, we all know that things weren't ready off the field. IF we get another shot at it then they will be. Wont they?
I think JC would be the man to lead us in another Conference campaign if that is what is going to happen.
Maybe IF we went up again then we should review what we can afford player and management wise.
John Coleman will lead us next season. Get used to it
we're in this mess because of a culmination of things, injuries and suspensions on top of losing two very influential players whuilst being hampered by their replacements breaking every muscle or bone know to treatment rooms.
Coley has made lots of mistakes this season ... the inability to bring the substitutes on at the right moment ... persevering with players who just aren't performing .... sticking with one dimensional (doesnt matter what the formation - the target is the same) football week in week out knowing full well the opposition have sussed us out. JC has to learn by these basic errors. But it is probably too late for this season.
I do not agree with other posts on other threads that call for his head. The one consistency at the Crown (even thats been inconsistent) over the years has been John and Jimmy. And that has been the cornerstone that our success has been built on. Just because a new manager comes in does not mean that things will be put right, a new manager will struggle to attract the right calibre of player because we cant afford the wages - its so simple that I can't understand the pillocks who keep ranting on about it. Maybe this season was too soon for us to regain League status, we all know that things weren't ready off the field. IF we get another shot at it then they will be. Wont they?
I think JC would be the man to lead us in another Conference campaign if that is what is going to happen.
Maybe IF we went up again then we should review what we can afford player and management wise.
John Coleman will lead us next season. Get used to it
I'm not necessarily calling for JC's head - but how long should he be given to sort out the mistakes? He does indeed have to learn from them. My worry is that it is taking so long. On a different thread, I have commented on the turnaround at Stockport where relegation loomed so large last season. Why the turnaround there? Was it a new manager? New players? New training ideas and regimes?
Wouldn't have it any other way
Let's just cart on. 9 games to go, fasten your seatbelts.
I don't know about Stockport, but the players at Macclesfield put down the big change driving their revival under Paul Ince to proper dieting! I'm amazed that Kimberley-Clark hasn't latched on to this before now - looks like he was right all along. Whatever they're feeding them seems to get them fired up - they had EIGHT players booked today!
Reasonable point, but maybe they were underachieving last season. They've been able to let players like Glenn Murray go, and get better in, they average over 5,000 per home game, it's a different ball game
I don't think Coley's limitations are purely down to Coley, he could do better, but couldn't we all.
Listen, if Coleman leaves I am 100% sure it will be of his own accord and good luck to him.
The money he has made for this club through unearthing players has been phenomenal. Mainly scousers too might I add!!
The entire club looks out of its depth this year but rather than blame John Coleman for that I take the opposite view....it shows what a miracle he performed getting us here in the first place!!
Every time he puts a side together players get sold from under him, usually for buttons. The sale of Anthony Barry last season for example, it was an absolute joke. I understand the club virtually gave the boy away and his loss could have seriosuly undermined the promotion campaign as he had undoubtedly developed into a key player.
I think everyone needs to be realistic and accept that a club that supposedly can't afford to buy any players, let alone put a roof on a stand, is just not geared up for league football.
If JC hadn't found all the players he had through his contacts imagine where the club would be then?? Nowhere.
Accrington Stanley is very very lucky to have John Coleman IMO and if people start asking questions of him I wouldn't blame him in the slightest for walking away. I have no doubt whatsoever that he would get fixed up at another good club in no time.
The money he has made for this club through unearthing players has been phenomenal. Mainly scousers too might I add!!
The entire club looks out of its depth this year but rather than blame John Coleman for that I take the opposite view....it shows what a miracle he performed getting us here in the first place!!
Every time he puts a side together players get sold from under him, usually for buttons. The sale of Anthony Barry last season for example, it was an absolute joke. I understand the club virtually gave the boy away and his loss could have seriosuly undermined the promotion campaign as he had undoubtedly developed into a key player.
I think everyone needs to be realistic and accept that a club that supposedly can't afford to buy any players, let alone put a roof on a stand, is just not geared up for league football.
If JC hadn't found all the players he had through his contacts imagine where the club would be then?? Nowhere.
Accrington Stanley is very very lucky to have John Coleman IMO and if people start asking questions of him I wouldn't blame him in the slightest for walking away. I have no doubt whatsoever that he would get fixed up at another good club in no time.
well said Stav.
It is a right point that the whole club is out of its depth. Hopefully we stay around long enough to learn to swim. But if we dont then WE ALL need to spend the summer taking stock and seeing if we could more to help, or if you are already doing can you do it better?
If the worst does happen (and I am resigned it with the FA charges) we need to regroup, recharge and then rewin the bloody non-league!
It is a right point that the whole club is out of its depth. Hopefully we stay around long enough to learn to swim. But if we dont then WE ALL need to spend the summer taking stock and seeing if we could more to help, or if you are already doing can you do it better?
If the worst does happen (and I am resigned it with the FA charges) we need to regroup, recharge and then rewin the bloody non-league!
That is the big worry though isn't it macca.
There are far better equiped clubs than Stanley in the conference let alone the league. If it wasn't for Coley working miracles on a shoestring, not even a shoestring really, then I think we'd be nowhere.
I think it might be expecting too much for him to do it all over again.
The re entry to the league was a golden opportunity for this club but the one thing that was needed most, and its not exculsively a problem here by any means, was missing.....INVESTMENT.
The roof debacle is far far beyond a joke now and to have come up a league and not only failed to buy players but sold off the two best....well, the writing was on the wall really wasn't it.
I think it again a credit to John and Jimmy that we are even in with a shout of staying up at this stage given the conditions they are working under.
ALL CREDIT to John and Jimmy - Eric had nowt to do with that side but ALL CREDIT to Eric for the club being in the position where it could aim for the football league.
Historically, relegated teams do not fare that well in the Conference, but do they not usually come down with allsorts of financial problems and players on wages they can no longer afford?
The team should remain, well the ones we want anyway. Once more we should be able to compete in the transfer market, crowds (home fans) will not go down significantly although there will be a big drop in away fans.
The club have to get the basics right so that we have the product and not just the team to show to new fans and appease existing ones. They will have at least a year to sort out any problems that league football brings (such as the lack of drink facilities). With the doom and gloom comes opportunity.
I hope
Historically, relegated teams do not fare that well in the Conference, but do they not usually come down with allsorts of financial problems and players on wages they can no longer afford?
The team should remain, well the ones we want anyway. Once more we should be able to compete in the transfer market, crowds (home fans) will not go down significantly although there will be a big drop in away fans.
The club have to get the basics right so that we have the product and not just the team to show to new fans and appease existing ones. They will have at least a year to sort out any problems that league football brings (such as the lack of drink facilities). With the doom and gloom comes opportunity.
I hope
Sorry but I don't think its that. Well not on its own.
You've got to ask yourself, are ASFC an attractive prospect to a professional footballer in league 2 or above?
The answer I believe is NO.
Would you come to a football club with :-
an inexperienced management team (League wise),
no supplemantary coaches (keeping and otherwise),
where the training facilities aren't that good unless they're borrowing someone elses,
the poorest ground in the league,
a very poor commercial outlook,
a very inexperienced club staff and structure,
what appears to be very little available funds,
poor support in way of numbers,
the worst wages in the football league by some distance,
on the whole a poor disciplinary record,
and top all that off with the prospect of relegation.
If you weren't a Stanley fan (which players won't be) you'd be looking for somewhere else to go aswell.
Please don't berate me for this post, most of you know there is no place I would rather be, but for any prospective targets we must be the last chance saloon.
Sorry people.
ok then so coley hasent got the league experience but who has a better non league experience than the man who won it the season before? Get rid? Get stuffed!
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its not over yet still plenty of twists and turns left
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its not over yet still plenty of twists and turns left
Good post macca. The club is still non league in the way it operates. That's not a swipe at the club though i just think that we have achieved a hell of a lot in a very short space of time and the club itself has struggled to keep up with that.
At the end of the day if we are relegated i would sooner have that then never to have seen my club play league football.
The people of Accy should get behind the club. The amount of people that moan to me about how bad Stanley are doing yet have not actually seen them play this season beggers belief. This could be the last chance we get for league football for some time so make the most of it and support the club.
At the end of the day if we are relegated i would sooner have that then never to have seen my club play league football.
The people of Accy should get behind the club. The amount of people that moan to me about how bad Stanley are doing yet have not actually seen them play this season beggers belief. This could be the last chance we get for league football for some time so make the most of it and support the club.