Local vs County
- Thread starter Gayle
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Gayle said:
The whip system is just a formal arrangement (an alliance) to prevent chaos. Hyndburn has 18 Cons and 17 Labour councillors. If the Conservatives did a lot of work on something but their members could vote willy nilly at the end then potentially they could have wasted a lot of time. Particularly if Labour is opposed to an idea from the start. In Hyndburns case one maverick Tory means a lot of work gone to waste.
There is a lot of merit in a proportional voting system. It would do away with the whip system and would also give power to fringe parties such as the greens and liberal democrats (only joking Bill!!!) and perhaps make for more radical government by consensus. There are of course downsides as well.
A lot of councillors start out with this idealistic way of thinking gayle but when they actually get voted in they fall in to line in the party. Even independant non politicals do it. They fall in to line with who ever they get on with the most. Very rare is it that someone gives their own opinion regardless of the rest of the councils. For one thing it would, I imagine, make them very unpopular, like I am now with most of the councillors, yet when I first got involved they were all all over me, wanting me to fall in with their line of thinking. Now they realise I have my own line of thinking based on what i think the people will want they don't like me much.Gayle said:
I may just put myself up again at next elections, and actually bother to canvas this time, as I'm always being asked by people to stand.
Neil said:
Yes - Nomination papers just about to go in!
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To all those who read this - Why don't you stand for election. All you need is four things
Live or work in Hyndburn, for the past year
Ten people willing to sign a piece of paper (this is a lot easier than it sounds).
A liking for people
A wish to serve.
Thats all it takes. You do not have to belong to a party.
If you want to know more send me a Private Message
g jones said:
Gayle, sounds like there is proportionality. Imagine if it was 17 +17 +1
last year i voted for the very first time.i am going to be completely honest and i am completly thick about elections and i dnt see the point as i dnt understand? (we should be taught about it in school and not have german language)(another story)
I voted and whats my vote gone to? they say its important and that you get a say but its not really saying anything putting a cross on a piece of paper?
im cluelss to it but i only vote just to keep people quiet.
I voted and whats my vote gone to? they say its important and that you get a say but its not really saying anything putting a cross on a piece of paper?
im cluelss to it but i only vote just to keep people quiet.
Gayle said:Decisions would never be made and we'd be an even worse mess.
Does that mean that if it was a choice of doing what was best for Hyndburn you would not do it becasue it meant voting with another party!!!
Neil said:Will you be creating your own canvassing material or do you have people to do it for you?
I'm interested. I am an experienced canvasser and leaflet producer but am always interested in learning more.
BillGreene said:
You need to think of ways to get your name in The Observer. You need to find something new and interesting. Being a naughty boy, writing your own weight loss column, moaning about icy roads and stopping smoking have all been covered. I wonder if any of our AccyWebbers are in the publicity business and might have some good ideas for you.
Madhatter said:
I think when you speak your mind these days you are too quickly criticised for it, and these days its more likely to be abrasive rather than questioning.
The less tolerant people are, and we are becoming less tolerant , the more politicians feel its best to sit on the fence or pass the buck.
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Up at again at the next elections. Is this in Hyndburn?
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perhaps the best thing to do would be to talk to your parents and friends, as their opinion and weigh up which you think is best. You have parents that that are very much in the centre of the comunity, and I'd value their opinion on whats best councillor for your area. I don't believe parties have anything to do with it, one area can have great labour party councillors and get a lot done, that the comunity wants, other areas labour party has strangled the comunity for years and gona against conservative lib deb, just for the sake of it, despite what the community needs. If you have councillors like that, regardless of party, they need getting out.baby boo said:last year i voted for the very first time.i am going to be completely honest and i am completly thick about elections and i dnt see the point as i dnt understand? (we should be taught about it in school and not have german language)(another story)
I voted and whats my vote gone to? they say its important and that you get a say but its not really saying anything putting a cross on a piece of paper?
im cluelss to it but i only vote just to keep people quiet.
It should be about people at local level, not staying faithfull to national political parties