New Stand

:) work was surpost to start with in days of the last game of the season' with all this fine weather we are enjoying and to last till next wkend at least,i hope a start has bin made:)
 
Apparently the new stand, providing the extra seating required for league 2, has to be finished by May 2009 - no ifs or buts.

If it is not done then we will be relegated as far as I am aware.
 
I'm sure Rob Heys has said that they'll be incorporating dressing rooms, offices and some sort of rental units into the stand. They can then borrow the money to build it and recoup it from the rents they receive. They will also be eligible for a grant from the Football Foundation. Bob's right, though - if it isn't built by the end of next season, we'll be out of the league, no matter where we finish in the table!
 
Yeh the new stand & other requirements will have to be done by the 1st of May 09 otherwise we will find ourselves out of the league regardless.
 
A grant is available for 50% of the cost of the new stand, but the rest of it would have to be raised and paid for. They're talking of a cost of £1million, but they don't know for sure. The £500,000 would have to come from somewhere and the only place it could come from is through loans, but even they aren't assured, especially in the current financial climate. What collateral does the club have to secure against the loans? Not enough really.

The thing is, the build would be a white elephant, as on our gates we don't need the extra seating. I know it's a requirement of the league, but it's a hell of a lot of money and I really don't think we're in any financial situation to borrow large sums of money. A bit of rental money from leasing offices would help, but where's the rest of it coming from every month?
An option would be to build low breeze block 'walls' in the away end and put cheap seating on top, or even wooden planks with 'seats' marked on them. It doesn't have to be something special and then if we are relegated next season, we wouldn't have blown a load of money on something we don't need. Even this option is going to cost, though.

Don't forget, aren't we supposed to have a permanent police control room by the start of next season? If that's still the case (and it was), then that needs to be a priority. Yet again though, I have to ask, where is the money coming from for that?

I know people will just see this post as TM being negative again, but we have to be realistic.
 
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A grant is available for 50% of the cost of the new stand, but the rest of it would have to be raised and paid for. They're talking of a cost of £1million, but they don't know for sure. The £500,000 would have to come from somewhere and the only place it could come from is through loans, but even they aren't assured, especially in the current financial climate. What collateral does the club have to secure against the loans? Not enough really.

The thing is, the build would be a white elephant, as on our gates we don't need the extra seating. I know it's a requirement of the league, but it's a hell of a lot of money and I really don't think we're in any financial situation to borrow large sums of money. A bit of rental money from leasing offices would help, but where's the rest of it coming from every month?
An option would be to build low breeze block 'walls' in the away end and put cheap seating on top, or even wooden planks with 'seats' marked on them. It doesn't have to be something special and then if we are relegated next season, we wouldn't have blown a load of money on something we don't need. Even this option is going to cost, though.

Don't forget, aren't we supposed to have a permanent police control room by the start of next season? If that's still the case (and it was), then that needs to be a priority. Yet again though, I have to ask, where is the money coming from for that?

I know people will just see this post as TM being negative again, but we have to be realistic.
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Totally agree with you, dont forget one of the reasons the old Accrington Stanley went was the building of a stand.
 
the current police control room is staying as it is with the minor alterations to the steps that have been made to keep local residents happy..
 
speculate to accumulate? we won't.

We'll only spend what we have and at the moment that is pretty much nowt - so building office space won't happen.

That's not a moan, its not a criticism, its how it is.
 
Rob Heys reckons it will. He's quoted in the Observer as saying, "This could cost up to £1m but hopefully it will be self-generating with changing rooms, new offices and places to rent. If it does generate income, we can borrow the money, although there is also money available from the Football Foundation."

The sad fact is, the stand is destined to become a white elephant, but it will have to be built regardless, or we'll be out of the league. :(
 
Just reading back the article I posted up from the Telegraph, the funding or some way towards it to build Business Space could be there if it was incorperated into the New Stand from the No Limits Fund:)

It could be used to hold Away Fans!

Roof on, Seats in place would probably attract more Away Fans and could probably charge a few quid more:cool:

Maybe incorperate a Restaurant that could be used on Matchdays for corperate and Every other night and Weekends be generating income for the Club, possibly a gym or some other recreational use that could be used by the Sqaud during the day and by the People of Hynburn in the Evenings at Weekend again that come become self finacing or at least maybe attract grants to help build it if being used by the wider community as well.
 
if it is going to cost us £500,000 (then the same again from the various foundations) how long would it take us to make that figure back?

if we went down to the Conference would we as a club make less money than we do now?

I personally kinda like the idea of being chucked out of the league again! it is in keeping with the Stanley fairytale (or tragedy). Let's make a stand (pardon the pun) against the hierarchy who would have us go bust again.

Get Mr Pope involved, in light of clubs such as Halifax, Rotherham, Bournemouth etc (and another ten every year) staring closure in the face because of overspending, we should be held up as a shining light of how a football club should be run. Well maybe not quite but you know what I mean.


The alternative would be to build a tinpot temporary thing that could come down as soon as we get relegated/find £1/2m whichever comes first. But of course, Mr Heys has already ruled out the building of a temporary structure as it would be wasted money.
 
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