One Step Too Far

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A recent report suggests that the Muslim community is making noises to have Islamic Holy days declared as Bank Holidays.

Pander to this suggestion at your peril.

This country is a Christian country and has been for centuries. I accept all comers and am quite prepared to share our land with them. What I am not prepared to do is let them take over.

It’s bad enough having what amounts to Muslim enclaves with mosques spring up as fast as churches get pulled down but having Muslim Holy days declared as Bank Holidays is one step far too far.
 
Quite right.

If they want Muslim holidays to be Bank Holidays move to an Islamic country.

If Brits move to Spain they don't have Boxing Day as a holiday because it isn't part of their tradition. They put up with it or move back to Britain.

The Muslim spokesman that came up with this ludicrous suggestion also wanted parts of Britain to be under Sharia law. Over my dead body.
 
Yeh i agree JB, specially as they are taking over our British heritage & telling us that xmas should be banned, as piggy banks - sorry if they care that much to have all this then go & live in a muslim country THIS IS ENGLAND!

Besides why do they complain about xmas??? they make a mint during those hols as their shops are only ones open catering for all those xtra customers nipping in for last min foil, tape & gravy:D

B*ll*cks to the Sharia Law - bog off to where its already in place in your own religeous countries!!!

This is what being over the top on race equality - yeh they get treated as any english person & follows the laws & protocols of the country - not one rule for them & completely turn our English traditions/laws/etc on its head to just suit them!!!!
 
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garinda said:
Quite right.

If they want Muslim holidays to be Bank Holidays move to an Islamic country.

If Brits move to Spain they don't have Boxing Day as a holiday because it isn't part of their tradition. They put up with it or move back to Britain.

The Muslim spokesman that came up with this ludicrous suggestion also wanted parts of Britain to be under Sharia law. Over my dead body.
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If they get what they want, it may well be over your dead body, and a lot of other bodies also.:mad:
 
Someone tell me again that slowly but surely Islam is not pushing its way into the UK with a view to taking over.

Many towns and cities have Muslim enclaves that now just happen to be a local authority electoral ward or two. As such, quite legitimately, they have a Muslim Councillor and thus a voice in chambers even though the Councillor was elected as a member of a political party.

How long before there is a Muslim political party?

How soon before the Muslim enclaves declare a form of UDI and openly introduce Sharia Law in them?
 
JohnW said:
If they get what they want, it may well be over your dead body, and a lot of other bodies also.:mad:
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I'll fight to the death first though...otherwise please place flowers at the base of the lampost I'll be swinging from.
 
well i gess you no how the afgans the iraqies and all of the muslim land feels when bush and blair go to put damocracy there
 
When surveyed, a third of muslims in this country want to adopt Sharia law for family matters.......but I can't see how this could work in practice.....English Law is English Law. Are the muslims expecting us to have their Sharia law thrust upon us? or are they expecting Sharia Law to be observed only for muslims in this country?
I would suggest that if they want Sharia law then they move back to where it is practised. It sems like we are too soft in this country......we accept that other ethnic groups can follow their culture without let or hindrance.....and that is laudable, but forgive me if I object to our culture being adversely affected by the pervceived offence given to these people by me following my cultural preference.
 
Makboom, the vast majority of people in this country did not give a mandate to Tony Blair.....and were certainly not in a position to give George Bush that mandate....to go into Iraq to take democracy or anything else there.
If you feel strongly about them doing that then I suggest you use your democratic rights next time there is an election and oust Tony Blair.
 
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Makboom, the vast majority of people in this country did not give a mandate to Tony Blair.....and were certainly not in a position to give George Bush that mandate....to go into Iraq to take democracy or anything else there.
If you feel strongly about them doing that then I suggest you use your democratic rights next time there is an election and oust Tony Blair.
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well i just said you no how they feel in the muslim land
 
hmmm shariah law thrust upon us in this nation..... it reminds me of something.. a bit like the british thrust upon, well lets see... south africa-just loved that aparteid, india-cant beat the british imperilaism, or yeh iraq-well done u liberators, how 'dead' happy that country is now, you can see their smiling faces on the news..
 
No Makboom, we can never EVER know how those people feel......we can only think we know....and I reiterate the point to both you and Jhonnyking....the British electorate demonstrated strongly against the invasion of Iraq.....Tony Blair did NOT have the support of the people who elected him....as for George Bush, well we can have no influence in the foreign policy of another country.

British Imperialism.....well, that's history and we can have no influence on that either!
 
"british imperialism- well thats history" a very british thing to say now, lets forget the past and learn from it- when its left those countries seriously undeveloped and in debt!
 
The British people are the most giving in the world.....we elect our representatives and trust them to do what we would like them to do.....that they do not always do what is moral, is not something that we can do much about until the elections come along.
Anyway jhonnyking, how would you change history then? The short answer is, as you have so rightly said...learn from it! But politicians rarely do.

Maybe some of the underdeveloped countries have bought weapons instead of concentrating on their infrastructure......underdeveloped countries have rich politicians too.
 
jhonnyking said:
hmmm shariah law thrust upon us in this nation..... it reminds me of something.. a bit like the british thrust upon, well lets see... south africa-just loved that aparteid, india-cant beat the british imperilaism, or yeh iraq-well done u liberators, how 'dead' happy that country is now, you can see their smiling faces on the news..
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1) The British were certainly not responsible for the policy of aparteid; that was the policy of the south africans of Dutch/German descent - the Boers, if you wish to call them that - and was formally developed in the late 1940's/early 1950's, aprox. 50 years after the Union of South Africa had full independence from the British.

2) There was no such nation-state as India or Pakistan prior to the arrival of the British; the Indian sub-continent was no more than a rag-bag collection of Princely states with no notion of national identity whatsoever. It was the British who introduced civilisation, the rule of law, cricket and the common language of English. Only on independance did the Muslims want their own religious state (Pakistan). What followed was several wars with India and millions dead and a now a nuclear standoff between the two.

3) Likewise, the British created Iraq in 1919 from the remains of the Ottoman empire. By my reckoning, that gives us every right to be there. If the Shia muslims want to murder and terrorise the Sunni muslims and they both want to kill the kurds , thats fine by me; let 'em get on with it - it is their affair. We'll just take the oil, thank you!:)
 
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entwisi said:
Geesh, you get the chance of another few days off work and all you can do is winge :D
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I think that you will find that if the Muslim community get their way and Islam Holy days do become Bank Holidays we will lose some of our traditional Bank Holidays to compensate.

The CBI will fight tooth and nail not to give any more days off work than we have now, unless a EU Brussels guided directive orders more Bank Holidays.
 
in iraq there were brithish soldiersor the cia dressed as cavilians they were caught and then the british army when and broke in to the cells to get them out. the news was covered quick.
india pakistan the british divided the country in two yes because muslims wanted a separate country but they left kashmir for the indians and muslims to fight over.which is still going on.
just like america gave fighter planes to iraq to attack iran and gave iran radar detectors to detect them planes.
then the americans told saddam hussain to take over kuwait then they attacked saddam.
the leaders have changed but the policys are the same.
before 911 when there was the oil crises in england remember it wasnt because price of the oil went up. it was saudi cutting supply because of the palestine situation.the powers behind bush and blair want the oil of the muslims and want to call them terrorist. the day muslims wake up and stop the oil then what.
the west divided the muslim land divide and concerd so they dont have the time when they had to face saladin ayubi. when muslims were united.so thats why you see on the bbc sunni and shiya fighting thats because the powers behind bush and blair want them to and her you see moderate muslims and non moderate dividing muslims.even peaple here now that bush and blair both need to be tryed for war crimes.whos gona do it the muslims cant because we dont have a say. we are labled the bbc hides alot from you.
and as tealeaf said he just wants the oil. atleast hes onest. i have nothing against peaple here its just alots been hiden from peaple.
 
Sikhs want another river for ashes of their dead
THE Sikh community in Lancashire wants the use of part of the Ribble, which is now used by boaters, to be reserved for the scattering of human ashes, Debbi Figueiredo reveals.

The religion dictates that the cremated remains of family members are disposed of in a river.

They say that Sikh families are forced to take the ashes of family members back to India to be disposed of because there isn't a designated waterway.


The Ribble in which ashes would be scattered
Charanjit Singh Heera, General Secretary of the Lancashire Sikh Association said that, while he knew that people were already scattering ashes in the Ribble, the community wanted part of the river to be a designated site to be used solely for this ceremony.

He announced:

"We want to be somewhere where we won't disturb people and they won't disturb us and the remains can be scattered properly in a place where they will be properly distributed in the water.

"When my parents died I had to fly back to India with their ashes. It would be so nice if there was somewhere in Lancashire where families could go to do this so they didn't have to go through all that."

Of course the Soar is already such a designated river for the scattering of ashes, but which is causing consternation amongst boaters as more and more objects are being thrown into the river and there is now the added worry that the cremating of bodies on the river is being muted.

http://narrowboatworld.com/

Your losing your own country.
 
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