Panopticons

Yes, of course a shopping centre with a nice Next would be lovely. But what would it really achieve? A few extra hundred people heading into the area per week? Possibly not even that, from what I've heard.
The Panopticons however seem to offer the potential for something else. A way for the area to be put on a tourist map. Anyone heard of the Great Days Out? Gets people on coaches into Accy, stopping at Ossy Mills etc. My gran has been on several of these trips and loved em. Said she wouldn't have bothered with Accy otherwise. Imagine now if Accy were on a route for a Panopticon tour? Same thing.
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Yep Ossy mills another 1/2 price market type store that attracts numorous people to the area, why cos its cheap,age group over 60s why cos its cheap,who else goes on coach trips during the week? So how the hell you going to get a load of oaps up the coppice?

What the town needs is investment in industry, in jobs, in revitalisation of the town center which will bring in better shops, better shopping enviroment you need a whole new road structure because some some ill imformed planners decided to route traffic away from town,to bring people to Accrington you have to start with the people who live there make it a place people want to live in not a chav center of excellence where they know the system will surpport them. So you have to knock a few buildings down that have been there a while, you have to clean up springhill and make the people respect where thay live. When you achive that then start looking at stupid lumps on the coppice, too many people who make decsions for Hyndburn don't live there so it doesnt impact them, it like the "they just got 100,000 from the goverment so we want some" attitude who cares how much it costs or where the money comes from just say no thanks we want our town back. When a counciller actually stands up and says look this town has gone down so far we dont need any more hairbrained schemes or pound shops we need a radical overhaul and we need to go out and find investment to make this once proud town prosperous again.
 
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Anyone else want to see granite erections?

They put a War Memorial obelisk in Tonbridge, by the Castle, and no-one takes much notice of that.

You see more people sitting on benches near green areas more than crowded around the obelisk (apart from those waiting for their bus, of course).

Less's idea is much better
 
Well I hate to say it, but you need to get to the next public meeting on the issue. If you've read the LET today or looked at the site you'll know that thanks to a REALLY bad recepetion at a public meeting the Ribble Valley panopticon has been moved!!!! The locals basically went to a meeting and said, no way in hell you're putting a statue on our lovely land!
That's the power of public opinion. As the old saying goes, if you want something done, do it yourself!!
 
garinda said:
An Easter Island style statue would be more permenant.

A granite erection of Peter looking down on all his Kingdom, now that would be good for putting us on the tourist trail.
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Good idea garinda. They can make it into a fountaine then Peter can **** on us some more.
 
My idea for PB's granite erection was tongue in cheek,mine not his! :)
 
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Why don't we just put a big sign on top of the Coppice as follows:


<----Burnley Panopticon 5 miles
 
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Tealeaf said:
Why don't we just put a big sign on top of the Coppice as follows:



<----Burnley Panopticon 5 miles
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Which of our illustrious leaders could take on the responsibility of saying which way the arrow should point????????????????
 
Speaking of attracting tourists. One of the things that would bring tourists in to Accrington is a lively, ambitious and diverse program of events designed to cater to all tastes and all ages. The sort of events that are not available anywhere else, which will get people out of their homes and queing up to spend their dosh in Hyndburn. We already have the venues. We have a civic theatre, A conference centre, of sorts. A delightful Victorian Town Hall and a gem of an Art Gallery. So it should be a breeze to get the tourist ackers rolling in.

HBC are so convinced that this tourist boom is on it's way that they have decided to start putting advertising inserts in the Observer. Entitled: "Your Guide to Events" They are really pushing the boat out over March and April.

At the Town Hall in Accrington, there will be one 50/50 dance night ,
Line Dancing every Wednesday and Sequence Dancing every Thursday,
The 8th Lancashire Food Festival and gala Dinner
And Tom McConville, Pauline Cato and Christine Hanson. The leaflet doesn't say what they do, presumably they are so well known as to need no further explanation.

At The Town Hall Ossy there is;
Laughing Bullfrog Comedy Club - 1 night
Humpty Dumpty - 1 afternoon
B'Eagles (Who?) - 1 night
and.... I can hardly wait..... Chas 'n' Dave!

Together with two exceedingly lacklustre exhibitions at the Haworth, that is your lot! I wouldn't bother rushing out to order your tickets right away, there is certain to be plenty available on the door.

The aching banality of these offerings from Hyndburn Leisure Services leaves me wondering, as I so often seem to do these day's, what planet do the people in Scaitcliffe House live on? It beggars belief that anyone in their right mind could consider that this paltry, amateurish, programme could generate anything other than sneers of derision.




 
With so much going on in the region Bob, I'm just a bit reluctant about staying in trying to improve the grammer in all my posts!
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From what l remember we did have a much more varied Art's scene in the 80's. l saw a professional production of 'The Tempest.' at the Town Hall. Punk concerts at Ossy Town Hall, and much more entertainig exhibitions at the Howarth under the curatorship of Norman Potter.
Can't wait for Chas n Dave though, hope it's the real ones and not a cheap tribute act!
Chav n Daze?
 
dillon said:
Well I hate to say it, but you need to get to the next public meeting on the issue. If you've read the LET today or looked at the site you'll know that thanks to a REALLY bad recepetion at a public meeting the Ribble Valley panopticon has been moved!!!! The locals basically went to a meeting and said, no way in hell you're putting a statue on our lovely land!
That's the power of public opinion. As the old saying goes, if you want something done, do it yourself!!
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You're right. If you were all so against it why weren't you more vocal? I was at the meeting and all I heard was applause and people saying how something like this was needed. I heard lots of people saying how it had really opened their eyes to the scheme and depending on the actual finished design they were in favour of it. It's all right mouthing off on a site like this when no one knows who's who but you should have had your voice heard. It obviously wasn't a fait accompli or they wouldn't have listened to the people in Ribble Valley.
 
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You're right. If you were all so against it why weren't you more vocal? I was at the meeting and all I heard was applause and people saying how something like this was needed. I heard lots of people saying how it had really opened their eyes to the scheme and depending on the actual finished design they were in favour of it. It's all right mouthing off on a site like this when no one knows who's who but you should have had your voice heard. It obviously wasn't a fait accompli or they wouldn't have listened to the people in Ribble Valley.
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Do you remember anyone here?
 
I was at the meeting and all I heard was applause and people saying how something like this was needed.

You went to a meeting & all you heard was applause? Get yourself to the circus the sea-lions are trained to clap as well but at least they know they get some fish at the end of it!
 I heard lots of people saying how it had really opened their eyes to the scheme and depending on the actual finished design they were in favour of it.

Lots of people would say I'm in favour depending on the ACTUAL finish of the design, thats like saying,
" I'm all for change so long as it's the same because I'm not sure what the difference is!"
It's all right mouthing off on a site like this when no one knows who's who but you should have had your voice heard.

We unlike you, have been communicating on this site for almost two years, we don't always (or should that be often), agree on every topic that is put forward on the site but we have if you would care to take a look at past threads on this topic given it a very thorough debate. o.k. so for once in your life you got off your backside & went to a meeting, if you ever bother to go to another why not stand up and ask any accywebbers here? You might just be surprised by the response you get.

It obviously wasn't a fait accompli or they wouldn't have listened to the people in Ribble Valley.

Gosh! French, in a quote on accy web! Bob & Doug don't ever try to compete with this one your latin just won't be up to it.

 
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Less said:
if you ever bother to go to another why not stand up and ask any accywebbers here? You might just be surprised by the response you get.
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It's not up to me to ask why you were too cowardly to speak up.
 
PurpleLass said:
It's not up to me to ask why you were too cowardly to speak up.
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My dear child, I use the term child because even if your mind is in the body of a seventy year old to call some-one cowardly without knowing anything about them just shows that having come to the end of your pitifully small arsenal of mental weapons that you have to resort to trying to provoke me into a tit-for-tat retaliation which is very childish indeed.
I do not understand you, why? because you try to talk sense but fail. You fail because you think the world revolves around you & that everything you say must be right & whatever any-one else says unless it falls within your own grasp of reality is wrong.
 
If you have read this board as thoroughly as you claim you may well have noticed that those of us who are not in favour of a panopticon wrote to everyone concerned, more than once in some cases, before there ever was a meeting. You have come into this debate very late in the day.
 
Less said:
My dear child, I use the term child because even if your mind is in the body of a seventy year old to call some-one cowardly without knowing anything about them just shows that having come to the end of your pitifully small arsenal of mental weapons that you have to resort to trying to provoke me into a tit-for-tat retaliation which is very childish indeed.
I do not understand you, why? because you try to talk sense but fail. You fail because you think the world revolves around you & that everything you say must be right & whatever any-one else says unless it falls within your own grasp of reality is wrong.
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Well, if I'm being childish all I can say is 'you started it' nah nah nah nah nah.

I'm obviously not the only one who thinks their view is right and whatever anyone else says is wrong - we seem to be alike in that respect.
 
PurpleLass said:
Well, if I'm being childish all I can say is 'you started it' nah nah nah nah nah.

I'm obviously not the only one who thinks their view is right and whatever anyone else says is wrong - we seem to be alike in that respect.
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OOOOOOH! I'm so upset now that I might just anonymously attack your karma that will teach you.

(wanders off to a corner squats down & starts to suck thumb)!

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