Paul Carden

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According to the LET, he's joined Cambridge United on loan. Anyone know if there's any truth in that? (there's nothing on the fishy site, as per)
 
Well he played for us at Blackpool on Tuesday, so he may well have gone on loan to Cambridge before the deadline yesterday.

The fact that other sites have the story before the official site is, as you say, nothing new. To be honest, I'm fast losing interest, which as a fan for 30 years is quite worrying for me.
 
Losing interest?!

We're playing at the highest level we've ever played at, with bigger crowds than ever before, a recently developed stadium, and some of the most talented players we've ever had. Surely this is the most exciting time to be a Stanley fan?
 
Losing interest?!

We're playing at the highest level we've ever played at, with bigger crowds than ever before, a recently developed stadium, and some of the most talented players we've ever had. Surely this is the most exciting time to be a Stanley fan?

And yet the club's PR still seems to be little better than at Unibond level. I know John Alty wasn't everyone's cup of tea as chairman, but you couldn't deny he had a gift for publicity (even if a lot of it was self-publicity). Communication with fans appears to be at an all-time low, the club shop website is apparantly out of date (according to other threads) and as to getting hold of anyone at the club, generally you can forget it. The footballing staff have over-achieved in getting us where we are and have busted a gut in doing so. The club as a whole, however, seems to be wasting the opportunity to push its profile (and the departure of Lew Carroll really is a blow in that respect). The only time I can recall seeing the club in the national press this season was the ill-judged whine about attendances.

I say this as an exile; perhaps there is more PR going on locally that I am unaware of. But I doubt it.
 
Perfectly put BedsRed.

I understand that as the club progresses through the pyramid the distance between club and fan is going to become more stretched, but I feel totally disconnected from the club and that is damaging the relationship.

Lack of communication between fan and club is a part of the problem, plus the constant frustration at the way simple things (like putting merchandise on the website so it will sell, or replying to emails) aren't done properly, just makes me despair.

Perhaps it's just me and I need to take a break from it all? I hear Burnley have a new manager. Maybe I need to go and watch something else for a while to put it all into perspective? ;)
 
I know he has gone, I was the one to disclose it on this site, I know that Lew has himself told us that he has gone, but my point is that the Club have not told us that he has gone - lack of information (which is being discussed on this thread)

Sorry that wasn't clear, maybe the club dont think its our business or that important as say onfield staff:confused:

Its the same old same old with stanley atm, PR is not one of their strengths at all even more so with league status. Like TM has said & many others have on the subject of stanley, public relations/communications are dire & does have a tremendous effect on all sides, fan, local, shop, etc which is contributory to the gates, merchandise, club mangerial behind the scenes issues.

As for website dont get me started, [or MR K will come back:p] errrrr wheres the telegraph??:rolleyes:
 
We've been told that Stanley are on a learning curve, but the frustrating thing is that nobody seems to be learning...or listening. Why has nobody reacted to the comments about the new Winter merchandise and put them in the on-line store or, at least mentioned them on the news section? And what about TM's experience in attempting to join the Stanley Legends scheme? Any remotely PR-conscious organisation would have jumped on that by issuing an apology to him, sorting it out and reassuring the rest of us on here that there won't be a reoccurence if we join. It really doesn't give a good impression to us dedicated fans. :(
 
True points wynonie, even more so distancing potential fans from the club too especially the younger market, its more frustrating that Eric being a business man should know all about marketing & customer relations, without either how are we supposed to keep afloat or reach a better potential & run the business side of it properly as well as expectations on pitch.
 
Maybe the club can't afford the resource to provide a better service than they are doing ?

I'll give em my rates then :rolleyes:

Seriously, a lot of the problem is mainly ERIC himself, as maybe Lew was trying his best to steer the clubs commercial side to a slighty bigger plateau to try to gain renvenue only for big E to put the mockers on it or take over as he does like to keep his rein on the club very tight, which has been always his way & wants it his own way, which can be intimidating for staff or for new ideas especially if it means speculating to accumulate or even spending on staff wages to get better people in...:confused::confused::confused:
 
as he does like to keep his rein on the club very tight, which has been always his way & wants it his own way

Understandable to a degree. It's always difficult to let go of your baby.

On the other hand I can understand the fans frustration at the lack of communication.

I'll give em my rates then :rolleyes:

Maybe they have opportunities for part time staff who would give their right arm to work for the club on that basis ( and would do it for free if there weren't practicalities such as feeding the kids to consider :) )
 
Seriously, a lot of the problem is mainly ERIC himself, as maybe Lew was trying his best to steer the clubs commercial side to a slighty bigger plateau to try to gain renvenue only for big E to put the mockers on it or take over as he does like to keep his rein on the club very tight, which has been always his way & wants it his own way, which can be intimidating for staff or for new ideas especially if it means speculating to accumulate or even spending on staff wages to get better people in...:confused::confused::confused:
Personally I think that Eric has banned Stanley staff from posting on the forum which is sad, when was the last time Rob, Lee ect. where heard on here. Communication with the supporters is very important more so when we have money to spend. I think maybe I should start posting about the attendance figures announced again because that usually gets a bit of interaction going. :(
 
We're playing at the highest level we've ever played at, with bigger crowds than ever before, a recently developed stadium, and some of the most talented players we've ever had.

...and yet I'd rather be watching Deano, Lutel, Jamo & Smithy playing Whitby away.

Surely this is the most exciting time to be a Stanley fan?

It should be, shouldn't it.

I also believe the club has drastically failed to capitalise on it's unprecedented success. This has contributed to sharing (with people like Tin Monkey) a sense of disconnection/boredom with the only football club I could ever have any kind of connection with. It's a sad state of affairs.

I'm not going to point the finger at one person alone, as I believe the club as a whole must take responsibility for it's lack of professionalism and what seems basic forethought and/or nouse!
 
Well said shaker :thumbsup:

Its a crying shame that the feeling of discontention with the club is fuelling & maybe should read this forum & the comments made, definately not such a criticism but a big constructive criticism that would improve the clubs infrastructure & its relations with the fans & would be fans.

The thing that makes it worse is that these comments made here, likes of TM, Wynone, bagpuss, shaker & myself is that we are there supporting the club week in week out as much as possible, its a sad state of affairs indeed which the club need to heed upon to keep their hardcore level as well as pormoting themselves to new fans.
 
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