Same Sex Marriages.

Is Same Sex Marriage a step to far?

  • Agree?

    Votes: 11 28.2%

  • Disagree?

    Votes: 7 17.9%

  • Live and let live?

    Votes: 8 20.5%

  • Stick to Civil Partnerships?

    Votes: 14 35.9%
  • Total voters
    39
  • Poll closed .
Stumped

Stumped

Proper Accy
Weaver
What was Cameron thinking about when he 'came out' in favour of same sex marriages following the condemnation of same by a senior Scottish clergyman? If there is one thing guaranteed to lose the conservative party votes come the next general election, then surely, this has to be it.
Be interesting to see subscribers views on the subject.


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In theory, if people are daft enough, and want to, I think marriage should be available to all, regardless of the gender of the person that you want to carry over the threshold.

However, I also agree that similarly everyone should therefore be able to enter into a civil partnership, if we are to have them.

Equality should apply to all.

Regardless.

As civil partnerships currently give the same legal status as marriage, I really don't see why this is a pressing issue for Cameron.

I disagree that it's a vote loser, most people nowadays don't give a stuff, it just seems a battle the Prime Minister doesn't really need to fight right now.
 
I think the poll options could have been worded better.

Should have been kept to two.

Agree/disagree.

Live and let live, and stick to civil partnerships, simply confuses the question, as to whether marriage should be available to everyone.
 
garinda said:
I disagree that it's a vote loser, most people nowadays don't give a stuff, it just seems a battle the Prime Minister doesn't really need to fight right now.
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I was with you all the way until the above, I think you will find that only 95% don't give a stuff.
 
garinda said:
I think the poll options could have been worded better.

Should have been kept to two.

Agree/disagree.

Live and let live, and stick to civil partnerships, simply confuses the question, as to whether marriage should be available to everyone.
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You are probably right re the poll options, but I was just canvassing opinion to see if society really has changed as much as the media would lead us to believe.
 
I think we've come a long way in the last 60 years, after all people were jailed for being homosexual in the fifties, until somebody saw a bit of sense and said hey hang on a minute here, we're jailing people for something they have no control over, as I've said before its not a lifestyle choice. To me if gays want to get hitched, carry on its live and let live
 
garinda said:
agree/disagree.

Live and let live, as to whether marriage should be available to everyone.
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Have to disagree -marriage should be abolished -live and let live!;):D

( My own life sentence is up 19th March...)
 
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wooooaaaahhhhh mods please can you delete my vote, i voted agree cos i didn't see the 'step too far' bit

i think same sex marriages SHOULD be able to go ahead, a couple no matter of which gender should be allowed to be happy as a married couple
 
Stumped said:
You are probably right re the poll options, but I was just canvassing opinion to see if society really has changed as much as the media would lead us to believe.
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Yes, but it makes it harder to work out any results.

The way you've done it, you have one option for those who don't agree with same sex marriage, and three voting options for those who aren't necessarily opposed to it.

When we've had similar polls in the past, the results were that the majority of people on here don't give two hoots what other people do in bed, or with whom.
 
flashy said:
wooooaaaahhhhh mods please can you delete my vote, i voted agree cos i didn't see the 'step too far' bit

i think same sex marriages SHOULD be able to go ahead, a couple no matter of which gender should be allowed to be happy as a married couple
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I agree hun.

The wording doesn't make it clear.

Do you agree with same sex marriage?

Yes.

No.

Unsure.

That's all it needs.
 
mobertol said:
Have to disagree -marriage should be abolished -live and let live!;):D

( My own life sentence is up 19th March...)
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Just when I was about to go down on one knee in front of you.

Oh well.

I'll just have to put the ring back in the cracker.

:rolleyes:
 
garinda said:
Just when I was about to go down on one knee in front of you.

Oh well.

I'll just have to put the ring back in the cracker.

:rolleyes:
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Oh, well will just have to wait till the next Leap year -4 years hence.

One might consider living in sin in the meantime...:rolleyes::D
 
jaysay said:
I think we've come a long way in the last 60 years, after all people were jailed for being homosexual in the fifties, until somebody saw a bit of sense and said hey hang on a minute here, we're jailing people for something they have no control over, as I've said before its not a lifestyle choice. To me if gays want to get hitched, carry on its live and let live
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Men were jailed in the eighties, when they were in consensual relationships, and one of them was nineteen, and the other happened to be twenty one.

The nineteen year old was considered a minor.

Even though he could have married a woman, without parental consent.
 
garinda said:
Men were jailed in the eighties, when they were in consensual relationships, and one of them was nineteen, and the other happened to be twenty one.

The nineteen year old was considered a minor.

Even though he could have married a woman, without parental consent.
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Thats what makes it such a nonsense
 
heres the way i see it

if you want to practice a religion and have a religous ceremony then you should adhere to that religions rules and not expect them rules to be changed so as to suit your needs.If you dont agree with your religion stop following it and persue a religion that is more of your taste.

i wont go into the old the bible says same sex relations are wrong or words indicating that is meant but the whole church thing is a complete joke because it now allows openly gay vicars,priests etc so these people have no right to stand up and preech a religion that they themselves are breaking the rules of.How can a gay man stand up and preech from his religions book which says man should not lay down with another man with a straight face( excuse the pun).

i hope that dosnt come accross that i am anti gay or homophobic but thats simply common sense to me that if you dont like a gangs rules then leave that gang and go start your own with rules you can live with and not expect other gangs to change rules to suit what you think is right.

also if i am homophobic im drinking in the wrong bars and need to have a re-think on who i call friends :)

personally i would do away with all religion and save a whole world of hassle but seen as we are on about partnerships i think people of any mix should be able to have the same legal rights etc i just dont think teh religious element needs to be addressed
 
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jaysay said:
I think we've come a long way in the last 60 years, after all people were jailed for being homosexual in the fifties, until somebody saw a bit of sense and said hey hang on a minute here, we're jailing people for something they have no control over, as I've said before its not a lifestyle choice. To me if gays want to get hitched, carry on its live and let live
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I came out as gay to my parents when I was seventeen, in 1982.

Well to be more precise.

At twenty past seven, on the evening of 7th of May, 1982.

I was lucky, unlike many others, and had wonderful, supportive, loving parents to help me come to terms with my nature, and my years of having to tell lies came to an end.

It didn't help our situation that I was seventeen, and unlike my friends, if I had a relationship, for the next four years, until I was twenty one, I could have faced criminal proceeedings. Which many at that time did.

I have two birthdays.

7th January, the day I came into the world.

7th May, the day I stoped lying about who I was, started living honestly, and became the person I am.
 
All this hype about the virtues of matrimony/civil union lends me to think that the objective is to make it compulsory:eek:

It's just a legal contract that provides lawyers with income when you need to extricate yourself from it.
 
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