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mushroom42

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Hi, everyone. Can't seem to find a thread on the smoking ban, so here goes... First, let me say that although I am a smoker, I respect the rights of non-smokers, and agree with the ban IN PRINCIPLE. However, as I am also the driver of a company vehicle, I am confused. The ban is supposed to protect non-smokers, OK so far, but as most company vehicle drivers, truckers, delivery drivers, salespersons, etc, are alone in their vehicles, surely we are killing only ourselves. The ban does not extend to Mum and Dad who can take the 3 kiddies out in a private car, and smoke as much as they like. While most responsible parents would not do this, they will not be committing an offence, whereas I, all alone in my van can be nicked for enjoying a B & H on the M6..... As Terry Wogan says "Is it me......?" :confused: Will we now be seeing "Smoker Detector Vans" deployed on motorway bridges ? :D Comments appreciated....
 
mushroom42 said:
surely we are killing only ourselves.
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Well apart from the obvious answer of.....so thats Ok is it? :) .... When that red bit at the end of yer fag drops off and into your lap.. you burn your left testicle. it's pretty hard to control your car or lorry. It's the oncoming traffic who will suffer.. Not just you..

All smoking in cars should be banned..

I am a driver, I ahve smoked and I have had the end drop off and fall between my legs for me to jump around trying to find it... It's a wonder I didn't kill anyone... Thus speaking from experience :)
 
were do were draw aline many cars still have radios/cd players were you have to change cd or radio buy reaching over.hands free mobile phones still splits the drivers attention.sat nav have a screen that stays on when your driving to give you instructions i no people that turn the voice control off and use the screen display to navergate.
 
I think the "you may drop the cigarette and cause an accident" argument is laughable. I was a driver-who-smoked for over 30 years until I gave up smoking and it didn't happen to me, or to my late husband, or to anyone in my family who drove and smoked, or to anyone I knew.

Think about it, please. Put the frying pan on and it might go up in flames, that happened to my neighbour; wash your car on your drive and someone might slip on the bubbles, that happened to another neighbour. The possibilities are endless, the probabilities are much much less.

I only know, personally, of 1 accident caused by a driver who was distracted by an activity in his car. A colleague of mine had her car rammed, and was quite badly hurt, by a driver who was groping around on the floor of his car. He admitted he had dropped his Fruitgums. Should we ban eating sweets while driving too?
 
KIPAX said:
Well apart from the obvious answer of.....so thats Ok is it? :) .... When that red bit at the end of yer fag drops off and into your lap.. you burn your left testicle. it's pretty hard to control your car or lorry. It's the oncoming traffic who will suffer.. Not just you..

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Well, have done this myself Kipax and is dangerouse I agree, although never burnt my left testicle yet ... :D

Once driving round and round the roundabout at the Elephant and Castle looking for the correct exit, noticed had knocked the red bit off, smoke coming from gear stick, had burnt through leather .. grabbed can of coke that was open in my car (whoops drinking whilst driving too!) put out what I thought might have turned me into a charred cadiver, and broke weakened tooth at the same time. Needless, to say kept my cool and found correct exit. :rolleyes:

Worst nightmare is if an unwelcome wasp enters your open window, then I really do panic. .:eek:

As above changing programmes on Radio, sat.nav extremely dangerous, not just looking at the blooming thing, but getting angry at that woman when the instruction is not very clear !! Puts my blood pressure up, I can tell ya'.
"Go on BITCH !! .. WHICH LANE DO I NOW TAKE ON THIS FAST MOVING EXIT SLIP ROAD, HURRY UP .. PEOPLE UP MY ARSE !!!" :mad: Oh, and it's all in bloody kilometres ..!
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West Ender said:
until I gave up smoking and it didn't happen to me, or to my late husband, or to anyone in my family who drove and smoked, or to anyone I knew.?
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katex said:
Well, have done this myself Kipax and is dangerouse I agree, although never burnt my left testicle yet ... :D!
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West Ender meet Katex... Katex meet West Ender.....

Get out of that one west ender ? :) :) :)
 
KIPAX said:
West Ender meet Katex... Katex meet West Ender.....

Get out of that one west ender ? :) :) :)
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Yeh, but that is once only in a 'smoking whilst driving experience' of 46 years, and plenty of mileage per year I can tell you !.. and only two speeding offences during that period (not high speeds either before you ask :eek:)

Had more near do's whilst trying to find Radio 2 as I moved a further 100 miles down the road .. before that RDS (?) thingy.
 
It doesn't make sense though that someone alone in a cab is committing an offence and someone with other people in a private car isn't.

I thought this was supposed to be about smoking in public places? Since when has the cab of a lorry been a public place? Maybe they are considering any hitch hikers you may pick up.
 
WillowTheWhisp said:
It doesn't make sense though that someone alone in a cab is committing an offence and someone with other people in a private car isn't.

I thought this was supposed to be about smoking in public places? Since when has the cab of a lorry been a public place? Maybe they are considering any hitch hikers you may pick up.
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It's just some company's policy if in a company car but, as far as I am concerned, they are just being pevish .. considering it is still to be yer place of work,etc., Willow. Ok if you have a colleague with you that doesn't smoke, fair enough, however, if on your own just control freaking. For instance, I can't smoke at work,ok about that, but if the Directors also decide I cannot smoke in my car 'on their car park' nothing I can do about it. To me, however, that would again be extremely churlish and controlling.

When I go anywhere nowadays, usually hire a car .. this company have 'no smoking' stickers emblazoned all over it. Not sure why ?? or how they stand legally, or what they could do about it if they discovered I had smoked whilst using it. Possibly because of the ash I may drop on the floor .. make more of a mess trying to eat a sandwich on a motorway service to be honest !! Crumbs and salt everywhere, and if they ever put one of those smelly air fresheners in them, will definitely think about claiming compensation, as have extremely bad reactions to them. !
 
The best piece of advice I can give to smokers is, and I gave it to my wife, smoke and be happy, if that is where you you get your enjoyment from, just do not do it near me, or in the house that is shared between us. If a lifelong smoker enjoys smoking then so be it, all the propaganda dished out on TV will not add one days life to them, it is far to late, if a smoker wishes to stop that has to be their decision and not non smokers.
 
Ah well, Ian .. guess 'tis too late for my blackened lungs, but looking at my newly decorated 'Barley White' ceilings, is having a little pull for cessation of this 'evil' habit, but that cold and rain outside is not very appealing, perhaps should get myself a smoking canopy now ... :( Wonder if I would get planning permission ?
 
katex said:
Ah well, Ian .. guess 'tis too late for my blackened lungs, but looking at my newly decorated 'Barley White' ceilings, is having a little pull for cessation of this 'evil' habit, but that cold and rain outside is not very appealing, perhaps should get myself a smoking canopy now ... :( Wonder if I would get planning permission ?
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Consider it granted kate, my wife smokes in the garage attached to the house, she has tried to give up on numerous occasions, but at the end of the day she is far easier to live with smoking.:D
 
KIPAX said:
West Ender meet Katex... Katex meet West Ender.....

Get out of that one west ender ? :) :) :)
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Out of what? I have never met Katex in the flesh so she is hardly someone I know. I don't know you either but I'll keep an eye out for the one with a slight limp and a look of pain and I'll wave. ;)
 
I this will cause a lot of worry to you all that smoke,i smoke my self,and i saw on the new,s on bbc this morning a landlord is prapaird to go to jail for letting is punnters smorke in is pub why can they not leave thing,s alone be cause i think my self all the punnters will stay at home and get carry out,s and then all the pub,s and club,s will shut.
 
The pub opposite my office in Warrington has had a smoking terrace built along the length of one wall. It's a wooden platform, about 2' off the pavement, with a safety rubber surface and tough perspex side panels held in place by steel posts. It's under the eaves of the roof, so it will be sheltered from the rain, and it looks wide enough to put a few chairs on. It actually looks very smart as they've stained and varnished the wood.

I think a lot of pubs will do similar things rather than lose trade. I don't think the ban will stop very many people from indulging in their habit.
 
mallard said:
I this will cause a lot of worry to you all that smoke,i smoke my self,and i saw on the new,s on bbc this morning a landlord is prapaird to go to jail for letting is punnters smorke in is pub why can they not leave thing,s alone be cause i think my self all the punnters will stay at home and get carry out,s and then all the pub,s and club,s will shut.
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Seeing as England is the last in this and the pubs and clubs and have not all shut down in Eire, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales, I don't think this will be the case.

I must say I am looking forward to going out for the night and not coming home with my clothes reeeking like an ashtray.
 
katex said:
Yeh, but that is once only in a 'smoking whilst driving experience' of 46 years, and plenty of mileage per year I can tell you !.. and only two speeding offences during that period (not high speeds either before you ask :eek:)

Had more near do's whilst trying to find Radio 2 as I moved a further 100 miles down the road .. before that RDS (?) thingy.
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Once is enough to have had a serious accident and missed out on many of those years, and you could've taken out a family car, a bus full of people, anything.

You wouldn't be criminally liable if you did though as it would class as non-insane automatism but under this smoking ban if as example already given, a banned sales person did it whilst driving and the scenario happened, I would be worried they may slam a death by reckless driving charge somebody for it.

Better to be safe than think its ok to bend the rules. Same with people speeding.
 
As has been said on the other thread,you'll be coming home stinking of other things instead.It was in the paper today how there are lots of smells in a pub that we don't realise are there because cigarette smoke masks them so in future you'll be returning home after an evening's jollification with some dear chums to find that you stink of sweat and farts.:)
 
blazey said:
Once is enough to have had a serious accident and missed out on many of those years, and you could've taken out a family car, a bus full of people, anything.

You wouldn't be criminally liable if you did though as it would class as non-insane automatism but under this smoking ban if as example already given, a banned sales person did it whilst driving and the scenario happened, I would be worried they may slam a death by reckless driving charge somebody for it.

Better to be safe than think its ok to bend the rules. Same with people speeding.
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Well, didn't happen Blazey, did it ?, but nearly happened on any many occasions whilst changing channels on Radio ! Not a constructive argument really.

Statistics/insurance claims prove that women are more prone to accidents due to the fact that they do short journeys involving children in the back of cars who cause mayhem with their boisterousness, and distract the Mum, by far outweighing any smoking-related accidents

Let's ban all children from our cars, shall we ? ;)
 
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